The GMO Corn Experiment

Backed by John Hilliard, Matthew M Winkler, Denny Luan, Lindsay Diamond, Jonathan Wish, Juan Antonio Navarro Pérez, Tom Glynn, Anne Simon, Bin Chen, Diana Horvath, and 378 other backers
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DOI: 10.18258/6056
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  • RoseRobbins
    RoseRobbins
    You have a great thought.
    Nov 23, 2021
  • Joe Schwartz
    Joe SchwartzBacker
    How many more years until you actually publish results?
    Jan 14, 2020
  • Kevin Folta
    Kevin FoltaBacker
    Hi Everybody, after three years of begging for this to be completed, I now have been eliminated from the project. This is shameful, disappointing, and speaks volumes about the ethics of Karl and Anastasia. I'm sorry for any delays I caused in this process, but rest assured that I did significant writing towards this work well over a year ago. This should have been done in early 2016, and there is no excuse. http://kfolta.blogspot.com/2018/08/revising-history-removed-from-gmo-corn.html?m=1
    Aug 30, 2018
  • David W.
    David W.
    We know that YOU know the results and we know you've reported the results to other scientists. Yet the citizens who made this CITIZEN science project a reality have been left in the dark for more than 18 months. This is really shameful. Especially during a time when its becoming clearer each day that glyphosate, is carcinogenic and yet 80% of gmo crops are sprayed with it, its important for the public to understand the concerns that gmo crops have in our food system and ecosystem. Isn't it time for the results of this experimented to see the light of day?????
    Aug 10, 2018
  • Joe Schwartz
    Joe SchwartzBacker
    How much longer?
    May 05, 2018
  • Tom Banwell
    Tom BanwellBacker
    Still no results?
    Feb 21, 2018
  • Tom Banwell
    Tom BanwellBacker
    Its been almost a year since this experiment ended. Are you guys still working on this?
    Jun 07, 2017
  • Kevin M. Folta
    Kevin M. Folta
    David and others... we are hammering along with this. I've tried dozens of different ways to analyze the corn using automated methods. However, there was nothing reliable that beat the manual measurement. This has to be done correctly for obvious reasons. The data will be publicly available, and any discrepancies will be noted visibly by those that don't appreciate this work. We are slowing moving through thousands of images manually. We hope to finish shortly.
    Jan 27, 2017
  • David W.
    David W.
    Thanks for the update! While we're waiting, I'd be curious to hear from people who participated in the experiment who are reading this message board. How many found a strong preference by wild animals to one of the ears of corn (30% or more preference.) I understand this will only be an anecdotal observation but it would be interesting to see. Thanks!
    Feb 05, 2017
  • David W.
    David W.
    We're all wondering, what's up. I emailed twice and I'm asking on this discussion board as well. When will the results be in????
    Jan 26, 2017
  • Chad Finn
    Chad FinnBacker
    About time for an another update on where the study is at? Data analyzed? Manuscript prepared? Manuscript Submitted? Thx!
    Dec 15, 2016
  • Sam Treadgold
    Sam TreadgoldBacker
    Any updates on when some results will be available? Super curious
    Nov 17, 2016
  • Adrienne Baldwin
    Adrienne Baldwin
    My daughter would like to use this for her science experiment. We can create our own or buy form you. Please let me know what is the easiest. We would like 3 kits.
    Oct 14, 2016
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Hi Adrienne, We've still got a few kits, and all we ask is something to cover shipping at this point. Send us an email at support@gmoexperiment.com and we'll get you fixed up!
    Oct 14, 2016
  • William von meyer
    William von meyer
    Suggest that someone mount the samples on an inert surface and note Colonization rates by various insects and consumption, if occurring. Another matter of interest would be rate of decay by the toxin forming Fungi, as per Gillis and fusarium. Thks for your efforts bill
    Oct 02, 2016
  • Robert Hirsch Ph.D.
    Robert Hirsch Ph.D.Backer
    Why are there no dates on these questions and comments? I have no idea what it means when Kevin says "Soon"
    Jun 02, 2016
  • David W.
    David W.
    We just did the experiment in our yard and were amazed to find a very strong preference for one ear of corn and almost no interest in the other. Although we have no idea which ear is which, we tried our own experiment this winter with GMO corn flakes and non-GMO corn flakes before your experiment arrived. We discovered that the squirrels, opossums and raccoons that feasted preferred the non-GMO cornflakes at a rate as high as 7 to 1. I wonder if we'll find similar results with this experiment. Looking forward to the final tally . . .
    May 22, 2016
  • Kevin M. Folta
    Kevin M. Folta
    Cool! There are a lot of results in... submit yours asap. Hmm, they liked the non-GMO ones? More sugar? Are they equivalent? Did they ever eat the GMO ones? You see why we spent so much time on our experimental design!
    May 22, 2016
  • David W.
    David W.
    The cereals were exactly alike in sugar content and most other ingredients. A small amount of the GMO cereal was eaten, but it was interesting watching the animals hop on the GMO plate only to use it as a jumping off point to get to the non-GMO plate. Even when we re-arranged the location of the plates, the results were the same. Of course, in your experiment, you're using exactly the same type of corn, so you've cut out most of the other variables making for a more exacting result.
    May 22, 2016
  • Dennis Conlon
    Dennis ConlonBacker
    when will results be available?
    May 05, 2016
  • Kevin M. Folta
    Kevin M. Folta
    Soon. There are still people that have not put their corn out yet, we're not going to wait much longer.
    May 22, 2016
  • John Mason
    John MasonBacker
    Maybe I missed this, but is there any time-frame for showing preliminary results?
    Mar 31, 2016
  • Kevin M. Folta
    Kevin M. Folta
    I'm frustrated too. There are people that still have not done the experiment. We will conclude it shortly, and unused kits will be tragically unused. Maybe we can add the data after the fact.
    May 22, 2016
  • Sherry Martin
    Sherry Martin
    Is it too late to purchase a kit?
    Oct 12, 2016
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Hi Sherry, you can still get a kit if you would like to participate in the experiment. Send us an email at support@gmoexperiment.com and we'll hook you up!
    Oct 12, 2016
  • Brun Robret
    Brun Robret
    Wouldn't animals from cities be more "used" to GMO food and so pick it more easily?
    Jan 31, 2016
  • Kevin M. Folta
    Kevin M. Folta
    We will see that in the data as there is a questionnaire along with the kit.
    May 22, 2016
  • Keith Edmisten
    Keith EdmistenBacker
    I can't get into the site to enter my results. It asks me to confirm when I login in. When I try to redo the confirmation process I have to enter kit number and ear numbers. I know the ear numbers but do not know my kit number. What should I do?
    Dec 13, 2015
  • Lindley Hession
    Lindley HessionBacker
    I received my corn a few weeks ago but I have not started the experiment yet. The ears of corn that were labeled for experiment 1 arrived with many of their kernels missing and one of the ears has a small stripe of rotten kernels. The ear with the stripe of rotten kernels is already missing around half of the kernels. It has significantly less kernels than the other ear. I am planning on weighing each cob and that will help to account for some of the difference. But I am concerned that overall this will affect the experimental results. Plus I am a little disappointed in the quality.
    Dec 06, 2015
  • Kevin M. Folta
    Kevin M. Folta
    Lindley, I'll let Karl jump in here because he knows more about the packaging, etc. Hold off at the moment. I'm sure there are more cobs.
    Dec 07, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Hi Lindley, Sorry about the quality issue! It sounds like a bad one slipped through. It was a mad dash to get them all packed and ready to ship. I would rather have you get a good kit that will work well for you (and make great data for us), so if you like, we will ship you a new kit that should be better.
    Dec 11, 2015
  • Jonathan T. White
    Jonathan T. WhiteBacker
    We have repeated experiment 1 twice now and none of the corn was eaten. We are setting the experiment out on a community college campus that has LOTS of squirrel and bird activity. However, the two locations we've tried haven't resulted in any feeding. (In fact, the corn has gained a gram or so between weighings). Does anyone have recommendations on how to attract hungry animals? One thought we've had is that leaving the corn on the ground makes it less attractive to birds and perhaps squirrels don't prefer to eat corn. Any advice you can give would be really appreciated!
    Nov 22, 2015
  • Lisa Croft Strite
    Lisa Croft Strite
    We've done three trials and not had any significant amount eaten either (max was 3g). We tried three different places in our wooded backyard where we see squirrels daily, but maybe they're so good at detecting the gmo corn that they're keeping their distance from the whole thing :)
    Nov 30, 2015
  • Kevin M. Folta
    Kevin M. Folta
    brilliant.
    Dec 07, 2015
  • Brad Choquette
    Brad Choquette
    It could be the squirrels are scared off by human scent on the corn. Did you use gloves while handling the experiment?
    Dec 28, 2015
  • Gary Smith
    Gary SmithBacker
    I have a question about the instructions. I started the experiment and completed both the opening and closing observations. It appears that none of the corn was eaten. So I want to retry the experiment as is indicated in the "Additional Data Collection" part of the instructions. However, I am not clear whether I should close the experiment, or just add a new observation. The statement "Start the experiment from the beginning with a new start photo" doesn't make this clear to me. Should I close out? Or should I simply add new observations? Thank you.
    Nov 19, 2015
  • Anastasia Bodnar
    Anastasia BodnarResearcher
    Hi Gary, Thanks for asking! Please take your 2nd photo to show nothing was eaten, then close out the experiment. You can the move your stand to a new location if you want, and start over with the same ears. Thanks, Anastasia
    Nov 19, 2015
  • Gary Smith
    Gary SmithBacker
    Awesome Anastasia. Thank you for clarifying that for me.
    Nov 19, 2015
  • Gary Smith
    Gary SmithBacker
    Ah I see now. Upon closing the experiment we are presented with a Retry option. Also, retrying discards the previous experiment and we start with a clean slate. LoL I opened up the cobs a bit more and fed the kernels to my pet parrot. She loves them!
    Nov 19, 2015
  • sheri gardner
    sheri gardner
    I am the teacher of two homeschoolers....2nd and 6th grades. We received our kit this week. In reading the protocol, it mentions the wood for the stands. Our kit came only with 4 ears of corn. Can we make our own stands like the ones in the video? I am excited to participate and have my girls learn science by doing an official experiment. Will start this weekend Saturday 11/21. Thank you for an answer and this opportunity.
    Nov 16, 2015
  • Anastasia Bodnar
    Anastasia BodnarResearcher
    Hi Sheri, I am sorry to hear that, we had a few issues with packaging. Karl will send you an email with details.
    Nov 18, 2015
  • Monica Metzler
    Monica MetzlerBacker
    Yea! Got my kit! I met with a Chicago Public School science teacher today and am going to share the experiment/results with her for her students. But won't start it until Nov. 30th. Let me know if it must start sooner. (FYI - in case you're tracking, the USPS was slacking. The 1-2 days delivery actually didn't arrive until 11/12 although it shipped 11/4.)
    Nov 13, 2015
  • Max DeJarnatt
    Max DeJarnattBacker
    i received the kit but didn't see any instructions - is it as simple as putting it out and snapping photos every so often? also, i suppose i should keep it out of the rain?
    Nov 13, 2015
  • Anastasia Bodnar
    Anastasia BodnarResearcher
    Hello Max, hopefully your kit included a slip of paper that said "The GMO Corn Experiment Directions: www.GMOexperiment.com" Please visit that site or follow this link to find the instructions. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9YusUO5Zq6YMk1iQkJudW9abXM/view Thanks!
    Nov 13, 2015
  • Robert Dressler
    Robert DresslerBacker
    I donated $25 and was looking forward to being part of this experiment. I have repeatedly signed the form but I haven't received the corn kit
    Nov 12, 2015
  • Kevin M. Folta
    Kevin M. Folta
    Robert, it should be arriving today or tomorrow. They went out last week. If it does not show up soon, please contact me by email. We'll get it figured out. Thanks, and have fun. Take lots of pics.
    Nov 12, 2015
  • Michael Barnett
    Michael Barnett
    I wanted to do this experiment with my 14 y/o son, I contributed my $25.00 I have not received my corn kit and I have been set on recurring billing so it is not $25 it is $25/month. I want my money back
    Nov 04, 2015
  • Anastasia Bodnar
    Anastasia BodnarResearcher
    Hi Michael, I'm really sorry about that. It looks like you are not listed as a backer here at Experiment.com. I think what happened is that you accidentally set up a recurring donation on our website instead of making a one time donation here for the experiment. I'll contact you directly to get this fixed and we will get you a refund.
    Nov 04, 2015
  • Hilary Towne
    Hilary TowneBacker
    Never thought I'd ever say this, but I can't wait to get my corn in the mail?!?!?!?
    Nov 04, 2015
  • Karin Lewis
    Karin LewisBacker
    Fantastic! Though we can't join in the actual experiment from here in Canada, I'm happy to support this wonderful initiative.
    Nov 03, 2015
  • Karin Lewis
    Karin LewisBacker
    Fantastic! Though we can't join in the actual experiment from here in Canada, I'm happy to support this wonderful initiative.
    Nov 03, 2015
  • Jan Mueller
    Jan MuellerBacker
    We had some javelinas walk through our yard early this am. I'm sure they'll love a little corn. And congratulations, this is great.
    Nov 02, 2015
  • Kavin Senapathy
    Kavin SenapathyBacker
    Congratulations on getting fully funded and more!
    Nov 02, 2015
  • Karen Loerich
    Karen LoerichBacker
    Excited to be a part of this experiment.
    Nov 02, 2015
  • Richard J. Roberts
    Richard J. RobertsBacker
    Always rely on young people to do the right thing!
    Oct 31, 2015
  • Charles Kelso
    Charles Kelso
    I'm wondering, are you going to "start" the corn? That is, take a bunch of kernels off of each ear prior to putting them out. Animals are more likely to go for the easiest food first. Once one critter has gotten a few of the kernels free, other critters are likely to take advantage of that. This is probably the reason for one whole ear being depleted before the other. And what about time? If one ear is depleted, do you wait to see what happens to the other? Was it preference, or a flip of the coin?
    Oct 30, 2015
  • Jon
    Jon
    You should absolutely have randomly selected bar code only identified samples of both the GMO and non GMO ears of corn submitted to an independent lab for glyphosate residue testing. This test needs to be done to provide verified lab analysis confirming that the experiment is free from any sort of contamination, which would null and void the entire project.
    Oct 30, 2015
  • Evan Kane
    Evan KaneBacker
    Citizen science!
    Oct 29, 2015
  • Kwame Ogero
    Kwame OgeroBacker
    Great initiative aimed at demystifying biotech crops.
    Oct 27, 2015
  • Nathan Falk
    Nathan Falk
    Since every hybrid has its own unique kernal hardness and starch content which can affect animal preferences and then skew the results. Will you be using the same hybrid on nongmo and the other gmo? Also what traits are you using as gmo? On the video i can tell you used two different hybrids by the cob color. My question be the did the cob on the right have a harder kernal so harder to chew?
    Oct 21, 2015
  • Diana Horvath
    Diana HorvathBacker
    I've signed up for my own kit, how do I get one on behalf of someone else?
    Oct 20, 2015
  • George Butel
    George Butel
    What you need to do is to run a separate experiment which will seem to be unblinded, but in which there will be two different groups, one testing the corn labeled as it really is, and the other testing it labeled opposite to the reality. In addition, you absolutely need to have a questionnaire filled out by all experimenters that is designed to detect potential prejudice. It would be equally important to find out if anyone else in their households holds strong views one way or another. You might be diligent and a truth-seeker, but the lady cleaning out your lab, or your sister, might want to "help out" the results so that they go the "right" way. I hypothesize that in households where anyone holds strong anti-GM views, if you give them "organic" corn labeled as GM corn, and GM corn labeled as "organic" or non-GM, the results will show that the corn labeled as GM will not be as attractive, and vice-versa. In other words, I hypothesize that the results will depend partly on the presence or absence of strong anti-GM attitude on the part of the experimenter or on the part of anyone who has access to the experiment.
    Oct 19, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    One could certainly test the impact of the GMO and non-GMO label on the outcome of the experiment, and that would be more of a test of human attitudes (or squirrels that can read). But for some volunteers they would likely be upset about being 'tricked' so we thought to avoid that possibility altogether. We're taking the time and making the effort to unbias the experiment by choosing ears that look similar to each other and barcoding them so that the experiment can proceed without label-based tweaks. At least until the squirrels decipher the code to defeat our precautions!
    Oct 20, 2015
  • Mitchell Weitz
    Mitchell WeitzBacker
    This should be interesting. Already seen videos showing what we expect to happen, but who knows? :)
    Oct 17, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Science has the amazing power to put our ideas, assumptions, and expectations to the test!
    Oct 17, 2015
  • Lillyan Nichols
    Lillyan Nichols Backer
    I just donated $25 and the site says everyone who donates $25 will be a scientist and receive a kit but nothing I filled out asked for my address so how will I receive the kit?
    Oct 15, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Yes, Experiment.com doesn't have an easy way to do that, so we made a signup form: http://tinyurl.com/gmo-exp-signup
    Oct 15, 2015
  • Mitchell Weitz
    Mitchell WeitzBacker
    I'd like to donate my kit to a worthy child or use the funds for the inevitable miscellaneous expenses.
    Oct 17, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Thanks, Mitchell!
    Oct 17, 2015
  • John-Jose Nunez
    John-Jose NunezBacker
    Heard about the experiment via your podcast Dr Folta! Such a fantastic idea! Supporting you from up here in Canada!
    Oct 14, 2015
  • David W Armstrong, lll
    David W Armstrong, lllBacker
    I apologize, but I am a scientist too Kevin, with 30 years of clinical science experience (including 8 years in the heavily regulated drug development world of pharmaceuticals). I take you at your word when you say you all have thought this through for 2 years. But - as put forward for those of us that are concerned enough about the anti-GMO crowd to fund this, I am concerned about what I (and others) perceive to be some design flaws that will allow the anti-GMO crowd to do credible damage to this NOT simple experiment; however, it is an important experiment. Again - I apologize for this post because I'm really not trying the rain on the project. For example, the design as I understand is a "single" blind when it could (and likely should) be double blind. I'll be quiet now; looking forward to receiving my kit and getting on with it.
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Mat Stormon
    Mat StormonBacker
    Im not trying to be cheeky, i just dont understand the terms as well as others. How could this experiment be double blind? Doesnt someone have to know that each kit definitely contains one GMO and one non-GMO corn?
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Yes each kit will contain GMO and non-GMO corn (2 of each, actually), but they will be labeled with an experiment number and a unique barcode for each ear. Within each experiment, the volunteer setting up the test does not know which ear is which, except by the number. Then after the data is submitted they will find out which ears were GMO and which were non-GMO. That the first level of blinding, which we describe in the FAQ section. To get a double-blinded experiment, the individual doing the analysis would also have to not know which one is which until the numbers are crunched. We're working out how to set this up with some stats folks so that we can add a second level of blinding to the experiment.
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Bill Price
    Bill PriceBacker
    The double blinding could also be extended to the growing/harvesting, receiving, packing and shipping, and even the interpretation of analytical results. Blinding at that level, however, comes with a cost of time, material, and labor. For a project of this type and magnitude, some, if not all of those are undoubtedly not feasible. I'm assuming Karl needs to keep his day job, not to mention his family and friends! While there will be criticisms, they would be lodged regardless, simply because of the people associated with the project. To me, a main objective in the effort is not really the GM question, but the educational/participant aspect. In that regard, the limitations and flaws are actually beneficial, demonstrating the difficulties in carrying out good objective research.
    Oct 15, 2015
  • Michelle Horne
    Michelle HorneBacker
    How and when should we expect to receive the kits...there was no place to add an address for shipping?? I will be sharing this with a classroom of 1st graders and we are very excited!
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Hi Michelle, you can sign up here: http://tinyurl.com/gmo-exp-signup Experiment.com doesn't have an easy way for us to get your addresses, so we made this form to collect the information we need to ship you a kit. We will ship them out within days of the fundraiser ending, and you should get them ~1st week of November. Thanks!
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Mat Stormon
    Mat StormonBacker
    I am backing this from Australia. I do not expect to recieve ANY kits. But my aunt is a teacher in Swamscott, MA. Any chance you could send atleast one of my kits to her?
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Absolutely! Just send her this link to sign up her class and we'll get one to her! http://tinyurl.com/gmo-exp-signup
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Mat Stormon
    Mat StormonBacker
    Thanks for getting back to me. I found the link reading thru the comments last night and have sent it on. Fingers crossed she follows thru with it
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Chad Finn
    Chad FinnBacker
    Unclear whether as a donor I was also going to get a kit and if so how will you know where to ship it as no address was given? If I expt happens and I get a kit, will there be a follow up asking for that sort of info? Thanks!
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Kevin M. Folta
    Kevin M. Folta
    We have your information with the donation, but please go fill out the form on the page. Go here... very important. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/12YAYjwqq8y2mQw03mepRvqUlzDp1x9RO9dkgZ2RgWZA/viewform
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Brian Urbancic
    Brian UrbancicBacker
    Have you seen those posts allegedly claiming that animals won't eat GMO corn? Well, here is your chance to prove them wrong -- or right!! This is a large-scale, blinded study using hundreds of people around the country.
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Gustavo Morales
    Gustavo Morales
    Sorry for the naive question but, since you are only getting pictures back from the supporters, will you be able to detect if any sample or result has been significantly altered some how? Essentially you will have 3 types of pictures back: 1) gmo ear eaten, relative to the non-gmo one 2) non-gmo ear eaten, relative to the gmo one 3) both ears equally eaten or untouched Since it is a blind experiment, Types 1 and 2 will have a random error contribution associated with accidental or intended manipulation (which I assume you can estimate some how). But there is no way to differentiate a valid result of a Type 3 picture from an altered one. So, as far as I understand I could send you a fake picture supporting the hypothesis that they have no preference, without you knowing it. Is it possible to quantify this bias, or how will you deal with it?
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Kevin M. Folta
    Kevin M. Folta
    Gustavo, it is actually quite simple if you consider the hypothesis. They will reject the GM corn according to the internet claim. So how much of it is eaten relative to the isogenic non transgenic control? The main finding will be that after 24 hours both will be gone. Difference between the two is zero. If neither is eaten, then difference between the two is zero. Chances are those will be the main outcomes, and anything partially consumed will be easy to quantify using imaging software and calculating the difference. If animals will not eat GM corn as suggested, there will always be a difference of consumption favoring the non-GM corn. We're scientists, we've thought this through for two years. There is no bias because the experiment is blinded to everyone until the end when the codes are converted. It is a concern that many folks are trying to find ways to invalidate or suggest problems with this simple hypothesis and simple test. Yet Huber, Mercola or Smith make the claim and it is broadcast across the internet with 30,000 likes and 30,000 shares. Very interesting.
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Bill Price
    Bill PriceBacker
    I'd add that there is a certain level of trust here that participants will not manipulate results. Certainly someone who supports GM and does not expect a difference could purposely clean off both ears to ensure that result, but some faith must be put into the idea that it would be a rare occurrence with such a large number of people and, hence, of minimal impact.
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Kevin M. Folta
    Kevin M. Folta
    That's true Bill. The good news is that such things are going to be exceedingly rare. Plus, at the numbers we have such attempts would be diluted out. Sad we have to think of such things.
    Oct 16, 2015
  • Andrew Smelser
    Andrew Smelser
    My concern is the fact that you are growing the GMO version right next to the conventional variety. You will get cross pollination creating contamination in your conventional hybrid ears. Plus your conventional hybrid seed was probably produced in the corn belt and already has some form of GMO contamination. I suggest you will need to plant your own isolation of the conventional male and female 100's of miles away from any corn production. Then you should test your lot for GMO presence. Also, there are herbicide resistance traits and insect traits. You should test GMO hybrids with just herbicide traits, or just insect traits, and should test it with both herbicide and insect traits. As I see it now, this experiment needs polishing or it won't be valid.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Kevin M. Folta
    Kevin M. Folta
    Good thoughts Andrew. All of these things were well considered and we're just fine to ensure no cross contamination. It does not take 100's of miles! The traits are known. We're scientists, we nailed these things, but thank you for critical evaluation.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Andrew Smelser
    Andrew Smelser
    I am to. And in the seed industry and well aware of the problems with GMO contamination from seed production. I don't know that you guys have proven it to be clean. Plus corn pollen can travel quite a bit. The standard 660 ft will not give you a clean source to work with. 100's of miles was an exaggeration on my part, but you will need considerable distance to feel very confident your isolation is clean.
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Andrew, we mis-communicated on the FAQ by describing their orientation as just 'side-by-side', as there was a decent distance between the two plots. We really just meant to communicate how similar the environments are. As far as determining rates of cross-pollination, we'll be taking care of that and we'll describe the process we went through to determine it and post the results. With regard to the 660 foot separation distance, that is not a 'minimum' as different conditions such as wind factors can make the separation distance required to reduce cross-pollination below a threshold longer or shorter. As a maize biologist, you know that maize pollen is very heavy and falls to the ground fast. Several studies have suggested that a 150 foot separation distance is often sufficient. http://ohioline.osu.edu/agf-fact/0153.html Moreover, we're not growing certified seed, here! :) We're taking reasonable precautions for a squirrel rejection/preference experiment. The corn was grown in Hawaii, not in the corn belt. Also, we are testing stacked multi-trait corn versus its isoline. Testing each individual transgenic trait separately would vastly multiply the size of this experiment so that it would be unmanageable. Instead, we can test them all in one fell swoop, and if we find a difference then we can pin it down to the individual trait in a followup experiment. Feel free to ask us more questions, and please try not to make assumptions.
    Oct 15, 2015
  • Andrew Smelser
    Andrew Smelser
    Sorry to be a thorn. It's hard not to make assumptions when you have a GMO feeding experiment on a fund me page with little information that most scientists may want to know. I know it was made for the general public, but I see these things and it makes me scared that a flawed experiment will get out and publicized causing fear when there is no reason for it. Seems like you guys have done good job thinking about it.
    Oct 15, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Yes, and the communication challenges are different for each audience. Experiment.com makes us keep the explanations short, but we're writing up more descriptions to publish as Lab Notes and blog posts to delve into the finer points of each issue. Every experiment is flawed - but this will be the best experiment that has ever tested this question! (Fingers crossed!)
    Oct 17, 2015
  • Mike Smith
    Mike Smith
    Can you fund at a 'get the results' level? 1 - there's no squirrels here 2 - if there were, you wouldn't be allowed to ship corn here (AU)
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Sure, and as far as I'm concerned, that would be the 'any' level! We are going to be releasing some bits of results publicly as the experiment progresses, and then the full results will be released with the data when the paper is published. Feel free to donate at any level you feel comfortable and you will be able to keep tabs on this project. Another way you can support us is through our Sustaining Membership program at www.biofortified.org/membership/ . We may not be able to easily ship real corn to Australia, but we can ship plush corn!
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Elizabeth Ann Ditz
    Elizabeth Ann DitzBacker
    I received this comment on my Facebook post announcing that I have contributed, and I'm at a loss how to respond.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Elizabeth Ann Ditz
    Elizabeth Ann DitzBacker
    "I've got concerns that Monsanto is "providing" the corn. It has a vested interest in "proving" GMOs are not less favored by animals. This vested interest makes me question the corn being provided. Can you be sure that you are not testing two GMO products against each other? Interesting premise and experiment if performed with fidelity and no bias to outcome."
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Well if Monsanto did not provide us with the corn that they said they did, that would indeed be a scandal! After all, the Material Transfer Agreement is a contract that specifically states what they have provided. We would be quite upset if they tried to game our experiment, and we will verify the identity of the corn to make sure that we're testing the right stuff. We'll give more details as time goes on. Even if you don't trust Monsanto, you can trust us that we want this experiment to be done right!
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Elizabeth Ann Ditz
    Elizabeth Ann DitzBacker
    OK, I want 2 sets of experimental subjects, one for my suburban house and one for the ranch in the Coast Range of California. Different species.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Georgia Nichoson
    Georgia Nichoson
    If we contribute, will you send us the experiment kit? I'm taking bio as a freshman right now and this looks like fun.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Definitely! If you mean a freshman in high school, just make sure to have a parent sign up. If you mean a freshman in college then you are probably 18 or over. :) Here is the signup form after you contribute: http://tinyurl.com/gmo-exp-signup
    Oct 13, 2015
  • William Barnett
    William BarnettBacker
    Since the corn is grown in side-by-side fields is there a possibility of cross pollination? I am sure the anti-GMO people will challenge on that basis unless you can design a way to eliminate that as a concern.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Kevin M. Folta
    Kevin M. Folta
    It is not a concern. There were proper buffer zones and we are testing to ensure that genotypes are correct. We will detect evidence of cross contamination. Good thoughts, but we've been thinking about this for a long, long time.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Ivan David Meza Canales
    Ivan David Meza CanalesBacker
    GMO or not GMO that is the question. I am excited! What would it be!
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Bryan Lessen
    Bryan Lessen
    One thing I can tell you looking at that picture those are not the same hybrids. That will throw off the experiment as different hybrids have many different characteristics such as starch content, hardness of endosperm etc. you need to have same hybrid traited vs. non traited to have a chance at viable results.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Hi Bryan, the picture you see above are not the ears of corn that will actually be used in the experiment. The ears of corn for the experiment arrived today. To make the video and test the setup, I used ears of corn that I harvested a couple years ago, along with some store-bought ears of corn intended for squirrels. Actually, in fact the two ears of corn you see in the picture above are the same variety and grown in the same field, but for one part of the video I had to substitute a store-bought ear because one ear got wrecked. If you look closely you can see a key difference. A graduate student in maize genetics already found it! I have taken a look at some of the ears that arrived today and they are very similar in appearance. We will share some pictures soon.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Wannes Voorend
    Wannes Voorend
    Hi Karl, I think the concern here is not the "appearance", but the genetic background and thus its composition. Ideally, you would have to present one specific hybrid corn and also the GMO variant in exactly the same genetic background. In that way the feeding value or "taste for squirrels" etc., is than equal and you can test the effect of the presence of the GMO trait. On top of that, the preference might be influenced by the type of trait that was introduced. How did you manage to incorporate this all into your experimental design?
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Hi Wannes, please read the FAQ section which gives a basic overview of some of these questions. We are using isolines grown in almost identical environments, so the composition and other traits will be as close as they can be. Moreover, we are planning to verify this information independently. We have got a lot of good questions to answer in the coming weeks, look for some lab notes and blog posts that will detail this for everyone. Thanks!
    Oct 14, 2015
  • Marcus Penn
    Marcus PennBacker
    My child's science fair is in January and I believe the main page requests we not publish our individual results until the paper is published. If that is the case, the language isn't entirely clear as there is a missing "not" there.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Marcus Penn
    Marcus PennBacker
    Ugh, so sorry for the double post! I tried to write more and it ended up posting. The portion of the Overview that confused me and with my correction is, "We are asking our volunteers to agree to [not] share their results publicly until we have a chance to analyze all the data and prepare it for publication." With a January science fair, would it be possible for us to still participate?
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Kevin M. Folta
    Kevin M. Folta
    Marcus, I'll leave the final call for Karl, but to me your daughter's science fair project is more important... so I think what we could do is provide the materials and support, and she could just do it. In other words, use this effort as a way for her to do her own independent research. That way she could do her science fair work and then fold those data into the big project later. The concern is not being able to publish real work because it was presented elsewhere. The main idea is to keep it off of the internet and off of blogs, etc.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Marcus Penn
    Marcus PennBacker
    Dr. Folta, thank you so much for your response! We will be sure to keep her data off the Internet until the final paper is published if that's acceptable. I still want to do this experiment with my two oldest and if it doesn't work out for the science fair we can always come up with another experiment!
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Kevin M. Folta
    Kevin M. Folta
    Let's leave the final call for Karl-- he may have something else in mind I didn't think about. Either way, we'll set you up... I have a closet full of amazing science fair project parts. Would be happy to send them if we need to go there. Either way, you'll have a top-notch science fair entry! Let's see how this goes.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Kevin M. Folta
    Kevin M. Folta
    Marcus, I'll leave the final call for Karl, but to me your daughter's science fair project is more important... so I think what we could do is provide the materials and support, and she could just do it. In other words, use this effort as a way for her to do her own independent research. That way she could do her science fair work and then fold those data into the big project later. The concern is not being able to publish real work because it was presented elsewhere. The main idea is to keep it off of the internet and off of blogs, etc.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Marcus Penn
    Marcus PennBacker
    My child's science fair is in January and I believe the main page requests we not publish our individual results until the paper is published. If that is the case, the language isn't entirely clear as there is a missing "not" there.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Cindy Wu
    Cindy WuBacker
    How many ears of corn do you have prepared? What will happen if too many participants sign up?
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Carolee Dearborn
    Carolee Dearborn
    I would love to participate with my science classes. Please contact me when this study is ready to begin. Thank you!
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Glad to hear it, Carolee! Be sure to sign up your classes with this form so we can send you a kit! http://tinyurl.com/gmo-exp-signup
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Marc Loring
    Marc Loring
    When will these kits ship, and when will the experiment conclude? We have countless squirrels around here, but they will start to hunker down for the winter soon and won't be back in force until spring.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    The experiments will ship as soon as the fundraiser is over and the donations process. We're getting the kits packed and ready by Halloween! The shipping should take 2-3 days, so the first week of November volunteers will be able to begin.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Leanne McCormick
    Leanne McCormickBacker
    I am totally geeking out about being able to participate in the experiment!!
    Oct 13, 2015
  • David W Armstrong, lll
    David W Armstrong, lllBacker
    Is it possible to obtain a copy of the proposal? I'm particularly interested in the sample size analysis, blinding, allocation to treatment, experimental units and statistical analysis plan (SAP).
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Kevin Folta
    Kevin FoltaBacker
    David, all points were considered. Experiments are blind to the participants, everything barcoded, and analysis will be yes/no in terms of if the corn was consumed from the cob. Quantitative data will not likely be possible, but the stats folks associated with this should be able to image cobs from photos and convert to amounts consumed. I don't think that will be the issue. I'm expecting 100% of treatment and control to be consumed. But we'll do the test and see.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Brian Eff
    Brian Eff
    Will participants be tracking consumption over time? If both are 100% consumed, it would be necessary to know if one was consumed entirely and the other was only consumed after the first was gone - i.e., if the non-gmo is preferred and consumed, and then the gmo is consumed because there's no other option.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    It will be really difficult to measure the rate at which each ear is eaten, but the original claims that launched this experiment to test are that the animals avoid the GMOs almost entirely. That being said, there will be room in our protocol for individual volunteers to go the extra mile and gather additional data that can address that question.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    We're working on writing a basic description of the protocol and those details so that we can publish it as a Lab Note on the project. We're balancing the scientific considerations and the practical considerations of doing an experiment with 100s of amateur scientists to keep it simple and also good enough to test the hypothesis. We're also doing a trial run with a few volunteers to make sure it is feasible and that the directions are communicated effectively before we give the full protocol for everyone to follow.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • David W Armstrong, lll
    David W Armstrong, lllBacker
    As Mr. Banwell points out the "anti's" will be in paroxysms over Monsanto's involvement. To head this off, Monsanto should be able to produce a batch record (much same as a pharmaceutical) that records everything about the seeds from planting to harvest. If the "organic" corn is indeed organic e.g. Without pesticide use then the batch record will reflect that in formation. The anti's will surely find something wrong but at least the experiment will show the facts.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Kevin Folta
    Kevin FoltaBacker
    It is not organic corn. It is the corresponding isoline relative to the stacked traits. Monsanto's involvement is perfect. If we didn't use their products, people would criticize that too. Keep to the hypothesis. Many claim it is the transgenes that deter the feeding. That is testable and falsifiable using this approach.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Mick Wilson
    Mick WilsonBacker
    I wonder how an African version of this experiment might be designed, one that accounts for the feeding habits of elephants and hippos....
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Shannan Muskopf
    Shannan MuskopfBacker
    Looking forward to doing this with my class!
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Glad to hear it! Be sure to sign the class up here!
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    http://tinyurl.com/gmo-exp-signup
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Rich LaBombard
    Rich LaBombardBacker
    I just shared this project on facebook! I am so very excited about being part of this! While I'm a big supporter of GM crops, I know that data doesn't care about your opinion. I'm a bit nervous, but still so very excited to find out the TRUTH! :-)
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Nervous is good! Because if this is a real phenomenon, we've planned this to make it as likely as possible to observe it. There's nothing greater than how science makes us test even our most basic assumptions!
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Skye Drake
    Skye Drake
    If possible, I would LOVE to interview the scientists involved. Science is my thing.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Kevin Folta
    Kevin FoltaBacker
    Skye, I'll leave it to Karl and Anastasia to chime in on such things. Karl is doing the heavy lifting on this project and he's the one to interview, along with Anastasia. I'll jump in if they think it is useful.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Skye Drake
    Skye Drake
    I run a small page called science bites. May I please share the results and such on my page? I am also gearing up to do a youtube series on science.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Feel free to get in touch with me at karl@biofortified.org and we can talk! There will be ways that you could do a video out of this as well.
    Oct 13, 2015
  • chad haney
    chad haneyBacker
    This is a great idea for science outreach. I'm totally behind it.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Jeffry Vance
    Jeffry Vance
    Kids in Vancouver are taught NOT to feed wildlife https://www.aphis.usda.gov/wildlife_damage/dontfeedwildlife.shtml
    Oct 12, 2015
  • wolfgang nellen
    wolfgang nellen
    Since people outside the US will not be able to participate (I would love to do this in Germany and Indonesia where we run school projects), I'ld like to suggest the following: could you set up a website and just publish photos of the cobs during/after the experiment as they come in to you? This would allow others to follow, kids could learn a bit about statistics and, since it is a blinded experiment, it will not interfere with the final evaluation and publication. It could just make a worldwide experiment out of it. Concerning Jeffry Vance: the corn cobs should not have a lable "Squirrels only"! Depending on the part of the country there will be mice, rats, birds, in Germany wild pigs ... eating this. How would you keep these animals out of the fields and the storage places?
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Thanks Wolfgang, we will have ways for people who are not doing the experiment to follow along with the experiment!
    Oct 12, 2015
  • wolfgang nellen
    wolfgang nellen
    Great experiment - but this has been said 39 times before ;-)
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Kevin Folta
    Kevin FoltaBacker
    Wolfgang, the images will be posted as they come in, and everything will be public. It will be open and more participation will be encouraged. I wish we could do an international test.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • wolfgang nellen
    wolfgang nellen
    Thanks Kevin and Karl. Let me know when and where. I'll advertise it in the Indonesian and German Science Bridge Network so we can at least get an unbiased international evaluation ;-)
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Jeffry Vance
    Jeffry Vance
    Feeding corn to deer could be death sentence - http://www.farmanddairy.com/columns/feeding-corn-to-deer-could-be-death-sentence/14324.html
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Jeffry Vance
    Jeffry Vance
    Corn is not good for squirrels - Please stop - You are teaching kids that it is OK to feed corn to squirrelshttp://www.squirrelnutrition.com/what-to-feed-squirrels.html
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Tom Banwell
    Tom BanwellBacker
    My concern is that you are getting the corn from Monsanto, who is not a disinterested party. They very much want GMO and non-GMO to be indistingiushable. I expect the GMO haters to point this out as a flaw in your experiment.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    I understand the concern, but they don't have control over our experiment. They also followed our instructions for traits, planting, spraying, etc! We specifically included as much as we could to make it as likely as possible to find a difference!
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Kevin Folta
    Kevin FoltaBacker
    .... and it is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario. If we didn't use Monsanto corn then critics would say, "well it is the Monsanto stuff that's full of formaldehyde."
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Kevin Folta
    Kevin FoltaBacker
    Karl runs a clean experiment and believe me, I want this to be clear and above board. We talked this out extensively to make sure all bases were covered.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • And1
    And1Backer
    Good luck!
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Michael Craughwell
    Michael CraughwellBacker
    You should get some sort of impartial witness or otherwise the loony brigade will say you sprayed the organic corns with autism before sending them out.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    We'll have some video footage of the packing process so everyone can see how it was done, but you can never predict all the things people will imagine!
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Steven Strauss
    Steven StraussBacker
    Go Karo, Kevin and Anatasia What a great way to settle the question, using the interested community to do it and have a part in it I have lots of squirrels in my backyard and would be glad to be a replicate if you wish. -Steve
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Thanks Steve, make sure you sign yourself up, then! http://tinyurl.com/gmo-exp-signup
    Oct 13, 2015
  • Donna Kray
    Donna KrayBacker
    Crumb, i watched the video *after* i donated. if i want to donate $ for other citzens get their science on (without buying myself a 2nd experiment kit), how can i do that?
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Kavin Senapathy
    Kavin SenapathyBacker
    Donna looks like there's an option to "increase pledge" near the top of the experiment page.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Hi Donna, thanks for wanting to contribute more! You should be able to just increase your pledge amount, but if you gave through another account it wouldn't be the end of the world! We will send kits to backers based on responses to the experiment kit signup form:
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    http://tinyurl.com/gmo-exp-signup
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Brandon Whited
    Brandon Whited
    Hello Karl, Kevin, and Anastasia I saw your video and think this is an awesome experiment! A heated topic such as this is great for science advocacy! I am a graduate student in statistics at the University of Minnesota and a founder of our chapter of Statistics in the Community (STATCOM) www.stat.umn.edu/statcom/. I would like to see if STATCOM could be of service to you? We could help by designing or verifying that the protocol sufficiently controls for sources of bias and collects information on all relevant covariates. Also by analyze the collected data and drawing the correct conclusions. As it is, I am just ending an internship and taking a position at one of the world leading seed companies. We have a large portfolio of GM and conventional sweetcorn and I may be able to put some of our knowledge of different varieties to use, helping to ensure that you have the most apples to apples (or corn to corn) comparison possible. Please contact me if you you think we could be of service! Brandon Whited White942@umn.edu Statcom@umn.edu
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Thank you Brandon for getting in touch with us! We will contact you soon to see how we might be able to collaborate!
    Oct 15, 2015
  • TERI
    TERIBacker
    How can I be put on waiting list to be tester?
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Hi TERI,If you want to participate in the experiment, please remember to sign up using this form: http://tinyurl.com/gmo-exp-signup This will allow us to collect the necessary information to ship you your kit as soon as the fundraiser is over.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Felix Lu
    Felix LuBacker
    I'm excited to be a part of this experiment!
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Lindsay Diamond
    Lindsay DiamondBacker
    By the way, Kevin - you make me proud to be a gator alum! I'm truly sorry for all of the ridiculousness you put up with as an ambassador for science! Stay strong!
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Kevin Folta
    Kevin FoltaBacker
    Thanks Lindsay. This kind of outreach is how we push back. We do the science that teaches and intrigues, and the rest works out from there. Thank you.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Chris Ryan Williams
    Chris Ryan WilliamsBacker
    This is a simple enough experiment to conduct and should be fun for us wanna be scientists out there. I'm interested to hear the results.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Sara Momsense
    Sara MomsenseBacker
    I would love to blog this experiment on It's MomSense if I get a kit!
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Hilary Towne
    Hilary TowneBacker
    I can't wait to participate in this project with my (almost) six-year-old son.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Kevin Folta
    Kevin FoltaBacker
    I'll be happy to include an application for college too. Get him started early! I always have materials for science fairs, so as he moves along keep me in mind. We'll take good care of you.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Hilary Towne
    Hilary TowneBacker
    I really appreciate that Dr. Folta and I will definitely take you up on your generous offer!!
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Lindsay Diamond
    Lindsay DiamondBacker
    This is great! I love the call for citizen science and the topic at hand. Best of luck surpassing your goal!
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Bonnie Hilton
    Bonnie HiltonBacker
    It'll be fun to be an "official" citizen scientist.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • John Wenning
    John WenningBacker
    I'm in too! Squirrels are regular visitors to our backyard. This will be a fun project and I'm happy to contribute.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Kavin Senapathy
    Kavin SenapathyBacker
    Looking forward not only to the results, but the people all over the US getting to participate in citizen science!
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Mary Mangan
    Mary ManganBacker
    I'm in! I was worried that I might not have enough animal traffic for this, but then I remembered that my citizen science non-GMO chestnut was snapped right off the stem this spring. I'll bet I can find takers for this too.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Matt Flannery
    Matt FlanneryBacker
    Teaching science that you can do in your back yard is crucial to get kids and adults to embrace science and what it has found and not fear it irrationally. I look forward to whatever this project uncovers!
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Mary Mertz
    Mary MertzBacker
    Thanks for doing this. Great idea!
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Kevin Folta
    Kevin FoltaBacker
    Karl has done all of the heavy lifting, so he's the one to thank! We've kicked around the idea for a long time and now we can do the proper experiment in massive replicates. It should show us if the phenomenon reported on the internet is real or not! Thanks Mary.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Chad Finn
    Chad FinnBacker
    Science fun for your own backyard!
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Jim Barry
    Jim BarryBacker
    I'm doing it for the squirrels. There's two of them behind my house that I don't believe have ever dined on corn. This should round out their diet nicely. On a more serious note, as an undergraduate food science major I think this project it very cool and I hope it happens.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Dominic Thorrington
    Dominic ThorringtonBacker
    For those of us living outside of the US in areas of the world currently behind the US in terms of adoption of biotechnology, will there be issues in sending the experiment materials to us?
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Hi Dominic,
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Hi Dominic, thanks for asking! Do to the issues in shipping these ears of corn to other countries, we are currently only offering the experiment kits in the United States. We are currently putting together a plan to include Canada as well, and we will announce that when and if it will be feasible.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • David Miles
    David MilesBacker
    It would be great if you Canadians could participate. I'd love to set this up in my backyard with my kids. I have a University affiliation if that helps but this is extraordinarily not my area.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    (this really keeps submitting itself before I'm done writing!) We do really want people around the world to be able to take part in future citizen science experiments, and when this experiment is complete we will be looking for more ideas for experiments that will allow us to include people in more countries.
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Dominic Thorrington
    Dominic ThorringtonBacker
    Hi Karl, that's a shame about postage issues. But as long as a school-kid in the US gets an experiment kit from me then I'll be happy. Glad to see the funding target is almost reached, good luck!
    Oct 12, 2015
  • Karl Haro von Mogel
    Karl Haro von MogelResearcher
    Thanks, and you will still be able to follow along with the project!
    Oct 12, 2015