Matthew L. Bochman

Matthew L. Bochman

Jun 13, 2016

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Why the 24-h time frame for the experiment?

One of our backers, Klara Junker, asked a great question: why limit the experiment to 24 hours? In other words, aren't the following days and weeks (sometimes months and years in barrels) important for sour beers?

We're investigating the first 24 h for a variety of reasons. First, that's the time course of the sour mashing that Blue Owl Brewing does. They've found that they can get all of the acid production they need in their sour tun in about a day by following titratable acidity levels. They even developed the concept of the sourness unit (SU) to measure everything and build in consistency in their beers (check out a write-up of the process here).

Another reason that we're focusing on the first 24 h in this project is that others have taken a stab at the sour beer microbiome in the past, mostly looking at the ethanolic fermentation and bottled beer stages (i.e., what happens after Day 1). Although we believe our approach and methods are superior to what's already been done, there's no use trying to reinvent the wheel when the parts are so expensive.

And that's really reason #3: price. Molecular biology is expensive! The budget that we're trying to raise funds for is bare bones. It doesn't include money for anyone to do any of the work, for Jeff and Blue Owl to make and collect the samples, etc. We would love to see this thing become over-funded, just so there would be a little wiggle room to cover publication costs and things of that nature, but let's not get greedy until we hit 100%...

Keep the questions coming!

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  • Jeff Young
    Jeff YoungResearcher
    I posted this in the main comments section as to why at Blue Owl we do particularly timed wort-sourings----if we do everything right in the brewery and hit our target conditions properly, we can achieve our "maximum potential titratable acidity" for the wort generally in well less than 24 hours. As the density of the wort goes up, so does the buffering capacity, and thus so does the wort's ability to resist pH change and allow the souring agents to create acidity until the pH drops below about 3.3. After it drops below a pH of about 3.3, very little additional acidity is created. So as a brewery, we try to get the level of acidity (TA) in the least amount of time. The beer we are tested is a pretty typical gravity wort (around 12P) and we find it hits the level of acidity we desire (around 0.65% as lactic acid) in about 18 hours. So to be honest, the data points will all actually probably be under 24 hours and the last one will be taken when the TA is about 0.65%.
    Jun 15, 2016

About This Project

Sour beers are likely the original beer style and have made a recent comeback in terms of popularity among craft beer enthusiasts. They are made with a bacterial and fungal mix rather than pure cultures of Saccharomyces. yeast as in typical ales and lagers. However, the suite of different microbes and their relative abundances during the course of souring and fermentation remain a mystery. We aim to map part of the sour beer microbiome and identify the organic acids these microbes produce.

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